From AVL Guard dog: Debate fact-checker: zingers, jabs and lies – Mountain Xpress

8September 2020

By Sally Kestin and Peter H. Lewis, AVL Guard dog

In their very first public face-off, the prospects vying for the significantly competitive North Carolina 11th District congressional seat, Republican politician Madison Cawthorn and Democrat Moe Davis, touted their distinctions on almost all issues and hurled accusations, with each calling the other “fast and loose” with the realities. Who was informing the truth? AVL Guard dog fact-checked some of the claims made at the Sept. 4-5 arguments at Western Carolina University and ranked them as true, incorrect or misleading.

SUBJECT: Well-being

THE CLAIM: In the first dispute (at 1:17:08), Davis implicated Cawthorn of wanting “to end well-being to stabilize the spending plan because it motivates single ladies, especially minority ladies to have more children so they get bigger checks.”

FACT-CHECK: We discover this claim to be REAL.

At a May 21 meeting at the Cherokee County Republican Celebration, Cawthorn said he had just recently talked with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., about “how crucial it is to wean the American individuals off of privileges.”

“I don’t believe it’s too far-fetched to begin simply cutting 1% or perhaps 2% or 3% of privileges that we’re sending out to people for these well-being specifies simply down so we can slowly wean individuals off of entitlements,” Cawthorn said. “That method, we can get our country closer to a balanced budget to where we can start running in the black.”

And in a July 20 conversation with the right-wing provocateur talk program host Charlie Kirk, Cawthorn said (at 44:40) that “one of the greatest problems we have in our country is fatherless houses, specifically in minority neighborhoods.”

“We fund fatherlessness because there are many monetary advantages to these girls to not get married and have more children due to the fact that then they can get more subsidies for those children,” Cawthorn told Kirk. “You have a woman who has 7 kids from three various daddies, however none of those dads are around.”

PROSPECT ACTION: “Madison Cawthorn securely believes that the very best possible social program is a task,” the project told AVL Watchdog.


TOPIC: Green New Deal

BACKGROUND: The Green New Deal is a congressional resolution that outlines a nationwide prepare for combating environment modification while likewise proposing dozens of programs to address economic inequality and promote social and racial justice. It requires the United States to wean itself from nonrenewable fuel sources and accomplish 100% power from tidy, eco-friendly sources by 2030. The Green New Deal resolution is nonbinding, and absolutely nothing in it would become law even if Congress authorizes it.

THE CLAIM: In the second debate (at 49:30), Davis stated: “My opponent keeps raising the Green New Offer and things that I have actually stated in settings. And I have actually said I do like the Green New Deal, however I have actually also declined to devote to endorse it, to supporting it …”

Cawthorn then held up a piece of paper that, he said, revealed Davis’s site on April 27, including the statement, “That’s why I support the Green New Deal.” The declaration was later erased from Davis’s website.

TRUTH CHECK: We discover Davis’s claim that he has refused to support the Green New Offer to be INCORRECT. On his Moe Davis for Congress Facebook page, Davis composed on Dec. 18, 2019: “It is our ethical responsibility to protect and secure our land, air and water for our kids and future generations. Environment change is genuine and we can’t pay for to wait up until we reach a tipping point to act. We are currently lacking time. That’s why I support the Green New Deal. A focus on green energy and green technology will produce tasks and secure our precious Western North Carolina environment.”

CANDIDATE REACTS: “Yes, Col. Davis supports the Green New Offer. He has stated that repeatedly. But here’s the nuance. There are something like 48 different elements to the Green New Deal. Col. Davis hasn’t accepted all 48,” the project stated in a declaration. “Yes, he broadly supports the objectives of the Green New Offer. However he’s not going to devote to approving legislation till he sees the real expenses.”

As for the erased statement Cawthorn referenced, Davis’s campaign said,” [We] were revising our site just recently and placing new pictures after Col. Davis slashed off his beard; we updated the content to much better show his perspective.”


TOPIC: COVID-19– Genuine or a Scam?

THE CLAIM: In the very first argument (at 34:00), Cawthorn was asked if he took the public health danger from the coronavirus pandemic seriously. “My fiancé operates in health care,” he stated. “I know from talking to her due to the fact that she’s really been with the clients who are experiencing COVID-19 that it’s no hoax … I encourage every single among my fans and people in the nation that if you require to wear a mask, if you are in that location of your life where you may have a pre-existing condition or you’re at an age where COVID-19 will significantly impact you, I motivate you, please practice social distancing, please wear a mask and if I’m around you, I will use a mask myself.”

FACT CHECK: We discover this claim to be DECEIVING.

Cawthorn has appeared at various campaign occasions throughout the pandemic without a mask, often with senior citizens in participation. In images, couple of, if any, of his advocates are wearing masks, and Cawthorn is imagined shaking hands.

Madison Cawthorn with Dan Forest
Madison Cawthorn campaigns maskless with Dan Forest, Republican for guv, in July. Photo by Brittany Whitehead, Hendersonville Times-News The Centers for Illness Control

and Avoidance suggests everybody use a mask in public and stay at least 6 feet away from others. Cawthorn’s statements make clear he views wearing masks to be an individual option, not a public policy problem, and recommends that social distancing and mask-wearing precautions are generally for the old and ill. At the May 21 Cherokee Republican event(at 6:30)

, Cawthorn answered a question about absentee ballots and stated,”I don’t truly think that COVID-19 is that unsafe of a virus.”And in an interview airing on WKRK radio in&Murphy, soon after North Carolina moved into Stage 2 of the reopening, Cawthorn revealed disappointment at the government’s speed.”It’s far previous time that we enable individuals to start heading out and simply enjoy our economy as a whole,”he stated( at 14:40).

“If we drop the government mandates, we might all return to living a roaring economy again tomorrow.”Cawthorn continued (at 17:30) that his buddies who owned companies had no objection to closing when”they were estimating on the low end was that 2 million Americans were going to be dead from

this infection by this summertime.” But when” a really, extremely few people in fact understood somebody who had gotten a symptomatic version of COVID-19, and none of us began seeing, you understand, dead bodies lying in the streets

, we stated, ‘I think this was overblown.’ “Cawthorn blamed “the mainstream media” for sensationalizing the infection” and due to the fact that of that, we just damaged our economy for no factor.”PROSPECT REACTION: A Cawthorn representative stated the prospect “thinks that Covid-19 is no scam which all locals of NC-11 ought to take the precautions that they think are required in order to remain healthy.”********* SUBJECT: Assault Defense BACKGROUND: In 1994 Congress passed a 10-year Federal Attack Weapons Restriction on the manufacture, transfer, or possession of specific military-style civilian semiautomatic rifles and high-capacity ammo magazines. The ban ended Sept. 13, 2004. Periodic efforts in Congress to restore the ban have actually been not successful. THE CLAIM: In the very first debate(at 44:30), Cawthorn stated:”My challenger at a fundraiser with his liberal pals said that he wants to prohibit all attack rifles, however he can’tactually state that out

loud because then what would happen is the red citizens wouldn’t choose him.”FACT-CHECK: Cawthorn’s declaration is a distortion. We find the first part of Cawthorn’s accusation– that Davis wants to prohibit all assault weapons– to be FALSE. When it comes to Cawthorn’s assertion that Davis says things in private that he will not say in public, we discover that to be TRUE, however we likewise keep in mind that in our long experience most political leaders do the same. Davis, a gun-owner, says he supports”the Constitutional right to own pistols, rifles and shotguns,”but says he supports”more stringent requirements to buy military-style assault weapons,”including needing purchasers to look for a license, pay a charge, and undergo a background examination that consists of obligatory psychological health records checks and reporting of any arrests involving an act of violence. Applicants would also need to finish a full-day gun safety course. Davis consistently argues for constraints on sales of those weapons, which, he argues, is not the same as supporting a ban. We discovered no record of Davis requiring a ban on high-capacity

semiautomatic rifles. Nevertheless, in The Smoky Mountain News, Davis was paraphrased saying in January that in a perfect world, just military workers have assault weapons. And, according to a report in The Blue Banner, a student news publication at the University of North Carolina-Asheville, Davis went to a small fundraising gathering in Asheville in February.” Davis stated he does not disagree with prohibiting assault rifles, however he does believe he would lose the election if he made that opinion public,” the press reporter composed. The story priced quote Davis as saying:”We simply can’t stuff it down their throats or we’re not going to win. “In the first dispute, Davis stated, “Look, I concur I would like to have no assault weapons on the street, but I put my policy out

there and voters can look at it, and if I don’t keep my word, then fire me in 22 months.”CANDIDATE RESPONDS: Cawthorn’s campaign stated the accusation was supported by the mix of Davis’s declarations, howeverit did not supply evidencethat Davis has actually promoted banning high-capacity semiautomatic rifles. ******** SUBJECT: Cawthorn’s Money THE CLAIM: In both arguments, Davis repeatedly called Cawthorn a multi-millionaire and on the 2nd nigh t(at 57:38)questioned his certifications for Congress as” a 25-year-old with a$30 million settlement. “FACT-CHECK: Cawthorn is 25, however the declaration about a$30 million settlement is FALSE. Cawthorn submitted three suits in Florida over his 2014 car mishap that left him partly paralyzed and in a wheelchair. Cawthorn was a traveler in a SUV driven by his good friend, who dozed at the wheel, ran off a highway and hit a concrete barrier wall. He told Charlie Kirk they were tackling 70 miles per hour in a building and construction zone. Cawthorn settled with an insurance provider for $ 3 million and then filed another $30 million fit versus the insurance provider, claiming it acted in bad faith. The court ruled in favor of the insurance company. Cawthorn won a different $3 million settlement against the building and construction business working on the highway, according to statement from his 2017 deposition. Cawthorn got an overall of $6 million in settlements, he affirmed. One suit is still pending. He has actually said he sustained about$3 million in medical

debt. CANDIDATE RESPONSE: A spokesperson for Davis acknowledged

that the candidate erred in saying Cawthorn had actually received$30 million. AVL Guard dog is a not-for-profit news team producing stories that matter to Asheville and Buncombe County. Sally Kestin is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative press reporter. Peter H. Lewis is a previous senior writer and editor at The New York City Times. Contact us at!.?.!. Source:

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